Solid caps can blow up?...

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 02:55:18 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and take some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:


https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/



If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a large number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago. He was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm. Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only a few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few.

Which is as unlikely as winning the lottery, which is why I never enter.

That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare event.
Nothing to see here, folks.

I haven\'t taken the covid one, but mainly because it\'s unnecessary. Most people recover just fine. Me, I never even caught it, despite taking no precautions whatsoever and mingling with many folk. My sister, her husband, and their two kids caught it, after being vaccinated. Shows you how brilliant that idea was....

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:05:31 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:01:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
On 8/12/2022 8:55 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and take
some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:


https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/




If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a large
number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago. He was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm. Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only a few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few. That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare event.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Wish me luck , I\'m headed to Memfrica in the morning on the bike and
I\'ll be wearing a helmet ... fortunately there are no thunderstorms
predicted and I haven\'t taken the clotshot .
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul.

That may well be true if you have a decent sense of balance. I have difficulty riding a bicycle one handed. No handed makes me fall off in 1 second. I\'ve never tried a motorbike and I\'m sure it would end badly.

 

[Peeler]

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 17:47:22 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you win the
death lottery.

Oh, fuck! The grandiloquent drivel starts again! <tsk>

--
Yet more of the very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"My family loaded me into a \'51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in \'52. I\'m alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going.\"
MID: <j2kuc1F3ejsU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[rbowman]

On 08/12/2022 09:17 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:05:31 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:01:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
On 8/12/2022 8:55 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have
fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and take
some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger
when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:



https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/





If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live
free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media
hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a large
number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you
win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I
see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago. He was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm. Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only a few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few. That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare event.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Wish me luck , I\'m headed to Memfrica in the morning on the bike and
I\'ll be wearing a helmet ... fortunately there are no thunderstorms
predicted and I haven\'t taken the clotshot .
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul.

That may well be true if you have a decent sense of balance. I have
difficulty riding a bicycle one handed. No handed makes me fall off in
1 second. I\'ve never tried a motorbike and I\'m sure it would end badly.

The gyroscopic effect is your friend. 80 mph on a bike and you have to
work at it to do anything other than a straight line.

I had an old ten speed that I could ride one handed but both my current
bicycles are mountain bikes. Their steering geometry is twitchier than a
road bike.

 

[Peeler]

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 08:57:36 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> The gyroscopic effect is your friend.

Your effective cocksucking makes YOU his favourite friend on ahr, gossip
girl! <BG>

--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
\"It\'s been years since I\'ve been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy\'s because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Jim Stewart ...]

How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease, etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have fun for
goodness sake.  I\'m continually amazed at the modern world, everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses.  Grow a pair of cohones and take some
risks, it\'s fun!

Have I not been telling people on here to take a chance for years ?> ...

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 15:57:36 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 08/12/2022 09:17 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:05:31 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:01:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
On 8/12/2022 8:55 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have
fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and take
some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger
when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:



https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/





If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live
free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media
hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a large
number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you
win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I
see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago. He was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm. Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only a few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few. That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare event.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Wish me luck , I\'m headed to Memfrica in the morning on the bike and
I\'ll be wearing a helmet ... fortunately there are no thunderstorms
predicted and I haven\'t taken the clotshot .
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul.

That may well be true if you have a decent sense of balance. I have
difficulty riding a bicycle one handed. No handed makes me fall off in
1 second. I\'ve never tried a motorbike and I\'m sure it would end badly.

The gyroscopic effect is your friend. 80 mph on a bike and you have to
work at it to do anything other than a straight line.

But what about going round corners?

I had an old ten speed that I could ride one handed but both my current
bicycles are mountain bikes. Their steering geometry is twitchier than a
road bike.

I tried my friend\'s road bike once and couldn\'t get going at all, since the handlebars aren\'t wide enough, I can\'t stand those drop things, they\'re too narrow, not enough leverage.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 13:58:34 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:17:28 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:05:31 +0100, Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:01:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
On 8/12/2022 8:55 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail..com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana..com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and take
some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:


https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/




If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a large
number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago. He was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm. Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only a few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few. That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare event.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Wish me luck , I\'m headed to Memfrica in the morning on the bike and
I\'ll be wearing a helmet ... fortunately there are no thunderstorms
predicted and I haven\'t taken the clotshot .
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul.
That may well be true if you have a decent sense of balance. I have difficulty riding a bicycle one handed. No handed makes me fall off in 1 second. I\'ve never tried a motorbike and I\'m sure it would end badly.

That\'s too bad. I feel like I own the world when I\'m riding in the Nebraska Sandhills on a nice day.
https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/nebraska/remote-sandhills-ne/

That looks amazing. I\'d love to go through there at twice the speed limit.

> I\'ve had a few motorcycles but I have a trike now. It\'s easier for old people to maneuver.

I take it you can also take a lot more luggage to go on a long trip?

There\'s a world class golf course by Mullen, NE.
https://www.top100golfcourses.com/golf-course/sand-hills
Maybe I\'ll ride by there someday.

I detest golf, but the courses are nice to look at.

 

[rbowman]

On 08/13/2022 02:11 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 15:57:36 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 08/12/2022 09:17 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:05:31 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:01:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
On 8/12/2022 8:55 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman
bow...@montana.com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have
fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and
take
some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger
when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:



https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/






If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live
free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media
hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a large
number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you
win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I
see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago. He was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm. Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only a few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few. That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare
event.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Wish me luck , I\'m headed to Memfrica in the morning on the bike and
I\'ll be wearing a helmet ... fortunately there are no thunderstorms
predicted and I haven\'t taken the clotshot .
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul.

That may well be true if you have a decent sense of balance. I have
difficulty riding a bicycle one handed. No handed makes me fall off in
1 second. I\'ve never tried a motorbike and I\'m sure it would end badly.

The gyroscopic effect is your friend. 80 mph on a bike and you have to
work at it to do anything other than a straight line.

But what about going round corners?

Just do it. Don\'t think about it.

https://www.tunedtrends.com/what-is-countersteering/

 

[Peeler]

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 23:22:22 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Just do it. Don\'t think about it.

YOUR motto is: Just say it. Don\'t think about it, you endlessly driveling
senile bigmouth!

--
Gossiping \"lowbrowwoman\" about herself:
\"Usenet is my blog... I don\'t give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts.\"
MID: <iteioiF60jmU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Snag]

On 8/14/2022 12:22 AM, rbowman wrote:

On 08/13/2022 02:11 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 15:57:36 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 08/12/2022 09:17 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:05:31 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:01:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
On 8/12/2022 8:55 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman
bow...@montana.com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney
disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have
fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and
take
some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger
when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:



https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/







If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live
free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media
hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a large
number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you
win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I
see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

     There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago.  He
was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm.     Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only a
few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few. That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare
event.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Wish me luck , I\'m headed to Memfrica in the morning on the bike and
I\'ll be wearing a helmet ... fortunately there are no thunderstorms
predicted and I haven\'t taken the clotshot .
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul.

That may well be true if you have a decent sense of balance.  I have
difficulty riding a bicycle one handed.  No handed makes me fall off in
1 second.  I\'ve never tried a motorbike and I\'m sure it would end
badly.

The gyroscopic effect is your friend. 80 mph on a bike and you have to
work at it to do anything other than a straight line.

But what about going round corners?

Just do it. Don\'t think about it.

https://www.tunedtrends.com/what-is-countersteering/

Gyroscopic Precession ...
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

 

[rbowman]

On 08/14/2022 05:29 AM, Snag wrote:

On 8/14/2022 12:22 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/13/2022 02:11 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 15:57:36 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 08/12/2022 09:17 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:05:31 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:01:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
On 8/12/2022 8:55 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman
bow...@montana.com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney
disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have
fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and
take
some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger
when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:



https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/







If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live
free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media
hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a
large
number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you
win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I
see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago.
He was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm. Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only
a few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few. That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare
event.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Wish me luck , I\'m headed to Memfrica in the morning on the bike and
I\'ll be wearing a helmet ... fortunately there are no thunderstorms
predicted and I haven\'t taken the clotshot .
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul.

That may well be true if you have a decent sense of balance. I have
difficulty riding a bicycle one handed. No handed makes me fall
off in
1 second. I\'ve never tried a motorbike and I\'m sure it would end
badly.

The gyroscopic effect is your friend. 80 mph on a bike and you have to
work at it to do anything other than a straight line.

But what about going round corners?

Just do it. Don\'t think about it.

https://www.tunedtrends.com/what-is-countersteering/




Gyroscopic Precession ...

You generally figure it out when you\'re about 10. My father would launch
me and my maroon and creme Monkey Wards 24\" bike down the driveway. It
had enough slope I didn\'t have to pedal. Eventually I made it to the
garage and had the physics down pat.

Close to 40 years and many bikes later I took one of those MSF courses
and the instructor explained exactly what I was doing. Screwed me up for
a while. I figured you look left, you go left without thinking \'now I\'ll
push the left bar to the right.\'

Of course if you think about what you\'re doing walking down the street,
you may fall on your face. Science is nice and all, as far as it goes.

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 11:25:49 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> You generally figure it out when you\'re about 10. My father would launch

Oh, NO! Now it\'s about his father!

<FLUSH another load of senile crap unread>

--
Yet more of the very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"My family loaded me into a \'51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in \'52. I\'m alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going.\"
MID: <j2kuc1F3ejsU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 18:25:49 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 08/14/2022 05:29 AM, Snag wrote:
On 8/14/2022 12:22 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/13/2022 02:11 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 15:57:36 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 08/12/2022 09:17 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:05:31 +0100, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail..com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:01:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
On 8/12/2022 8:55 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 07:30 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:49:15 +0100, Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:47:33 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 04:29 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:52 +0100, rbowman
bow...@montana.com
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 03:03 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney
disease,
etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have
fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world,
everyone has
turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and
take
some
risks, it\'s fun!

So there you are, driving down to Mickey D\'s for a burger
when some
drugged out psychotic bitch kills you:



https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/la-crash-suspect-nicole-linton-has-previous-accidents-report/







If I buy the farm in a 90mph motorcycle crash just put \'live
free or
die\' on the roadside marker.

Shit happens, but it\'s not that likely. People fall for media
hype.
They see 1000 killed out of 7 billion and think that\'s a
large
number.
My brother-in-law got killed by lightning. Sooner or later you
win the
death lottery. That said, I don\'t hang around on summits when I
see a
t-storm moving in and I don\'t do wheelies in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1YcgdZ8A0

There was a biker buried with his helmet on years ago.
He was
riding down I-80 during a thunderstorm. Common sense isn\'t.

Indeed, he\'d have been much safer with the helmet off

But seriously, chances are if a million people did that, only
a few
would die.

Sucks if you\'re one of the few. That is why I always had an uneasy
feeling about statistics particularly when it comes to safe and
effective vaccines. Young athletes dropping dead is a very rare
event.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Wish me luck , I\'m headed to Memfrica in the morning on the bike and
I\'ll be wearing a helmet ... fortunately there are no thunderstorms
predicted and I haven\'t taken the clotshot .
--
Snag
“Free speech is my right to say what you don’t
want to hear.” -George Orwell

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul.

That may well be true if you have a decent sense of balance. I have
difficulty riding a bicycle one handed. No handed makes me fall
off in
1 second. I\'ve never tried a motorbike and I\'m sure it would end
badly.

The gyroscopic effect is your friend. 80 mph on a bike and you have to
work at it to do anything other than a straight line.

But what about going round corners?

Just do it. Don\'t think about it.

https://www.tunedtrends.com/what-is-countersteering/




Gyroscopic Precession ...


You generally figure it out when you\'re about 10. My father would launch
me and my maroon and creme Monkey Wards 24\" bike down the driveway. It
had enough slope I didn\'t have to pedal. Eventually I made it to the
garage and had the physics down pat.

Close to 40 years and many bikes later I took one of those MSF courses
and the instructor explained exactly what I was doing. Screwed me up for
a while. I figured you look left, you go left without thinking \'now I\'ll
push the left bar to the right.\'

Of course if you think about what you\'re doing walking down the street,
you may fall on your face. Science is nice and all, as far as it goes.

I could never learn to do something counterintuitive. My subconscious has fixed ideas.

 

[jon]

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 20:28:04 +0100, Jim Stewart ... wrote:

How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease, etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have fun for
goodness sake.  I\'m continually amazed at the modern world, everyone
has turned into big girl\'s blouses.  Grow a pair of cohones and take
some risks, it\'s fun!

Have I not been telling people on here to take a chance for years ?> ...

Especially reversed connected electrolytics.

 

[Brian Gregory]

On 12/08/2022 19:20, Marco Moock wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2022, um 03:07:19 Uhr schrieb Brian Gregory:

Just from water?
That\'s hard to believe.

Yes, it was normal water, but our water here contains a lot of calcium
inside, that improves the conductivity.

So your thinking that the water carried the +12V or -12V to a part that
expected only a lower voltage? And then passed enough current for a
capacitor to heat up and explode?

I still find it hard to believe.

I guess maybe some tiny capacitor the coupled audio in the on board
audio circuit?

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

 

[Paul]

On 8/17/2022 10:11 AM, Brian Gregory wrote:

On 12/08/2022 19:20, Marco Moock wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2022, um 03:07:19 Uhr schrieb Brian Gregory:

Just from water?
That\'s hard to believe.

Yes, it was normal water, but our water here contains a lot of calcium
inside, that improves the conductivity.


So your thinking that the water carried the +12V or -12V to a part that expected only a lower voltage? And then passed enough current for a capacitor to heat up and explode?

I still find it hard to believe.

I guess maybe some tiny capacitor the coupled audio in the on board audio circuit?

But that cap is on the input side filter bank.

Some of the R9 280x have two 2x4 pin PCIe power connectors.
The OPs board is one of the bodged ones, where the PCB has
holes for two 2x4, but the board is populated with one 2x3 and one 2x4.
The board VBIOS must be programmed with an appropriate power limit,
if the board has power management.

https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/841/images/Sapphire_08S.jpg

( https://www.techspot.com/review/841-radeon-r9-280x-roundup/page6.html )

The +12V input side, likely uses an LC filter to help prevent switching
noise from the GPU, from getting back into the ATX supply. In this
picture, the layout is unrolled in linear fashion so you can see the
LC filtering the +12V coming in. On another card boardview I could find,
one of those inductors is rated 21A, the other was rated 16A (as some
boards use a 2x3 and a 2x4, so the inductors are allowed to be different).

https://www.igorslab.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/00980-990x743.jpg

( https://www.igorslab.de/en/special-adapter-on-the-pcie-socket-of-the-graphics-card-against-load-peaks-snake-oil-or-miracle/ )

But the capacitors are also close to their WVDC, running at
nominally 12V with a 16V rating. If there was any kind of surge
effect, the rail voltage across the cap could rise above 12V.

As for the adapter that Igorslab is testing, this is a bad idea,
because ATX supplies have a limit as to how much capacitance they
can drive, before they lose control loop stability. This would be
why those little toys would not be using all the capacitance
money could buy. As an example of a number (don\'t use this),
the value might be 5000uF on the thing the ATX supply is driving.
When a motherboard designer \"sprinkles\" bulk decap on the mobo
(like near PCIe slots), they cannot exceed that kind of number.
Peripherals have to follow some sort of rules as well. Even USB items,
like flash keys, have a limit on allowed bypass caps. (100uF sag
protection on the mobo, 10uF max on a USB key to prevent an inrush
problem on a shared rail.)

Such a cap (the ruined one), is for all practical purposes
running off +12V and GND, and cares not about water sprinkles.
Maybe you could have electrolysis to eat the cap body, but as
far as charging the cap to some illegal value, probably not.

Paul

 

[John Walliker]

On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 16:52:35 UTC+1, Paul wrote:

On 8/17/2022 10:11 AM, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 12/08/2022 19:20, Marco Moock wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2022, um 03:07:19 Uhr schrieb Brian Gregory:

Just from water?
That\'s hard to believe.

Yes, it was normal water, but our water here contains a lot of calcium
inside, that improves the conductivity.


So your thinking that the water carried the +12V or -12V to a part that expected only a lower voltage? And then passed enough current for a capacitor to heat up and explode?

I still find it hard to believe.

I guess maybe some tiny capacitor the coupled audio in the on board audio circuit?

But that cap is on the input side filter bank.

Some of the R9 280x have two 2x4 pin PCIe power connectors.
The OPs board is one of the bodged ones, where the PCB has
holes for two 2x4, but the board is populated with one 2x3 and one 2x4.
The board VBIOS must be programmed with an appropriate power limit,
if the board has power management.

https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/841/images/Sapphire_08S.jpg

( https://www.techspot.com/review/841-radeon-r9-280x-roundup/page6.html )

The +12V input side, likely uses an LC filter to help prevent switching
noise from the GPU, from getting back into the ATX supply. In this
picture, the layout is unrolled in linear fashion so you can see the
LC filtering the +12V coming in. On another card boardview I could find,
one of those inductors is rated 21A, the other was rated 16A (as some
boards use a 2x3 and a 2x4, so the inductors are allowed to be different).

https://www.igorslab.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/00980-990x743.jpg

( https://www.igorslab.de/en/special-adapter-on-the-pcie-socket-of-the-graphics-card-against-load-peaks-snake-oil-or-miracle/ )

But the capacitors are also close to their WVDC, running at
nominally 12V with a 16V rating. If there was any kind of surge
effect, the rail voltage across the cap could rise above 12V.

As for the adapter that Igorslab is testing, this is a bad idea,
because ATX supplies have a limit as to how much capacitance they
can drive, before they lose control loop stability. This would be
why those little toys would not be using all the capacitance
money could buy. As an example of a number (don\'t use this),
the value might be 5000uF on the thing the ATX supply is driving.
When a motherboard designer \"sprinkles\" bulk decap on the mobo
(like near PCIe slots), they cannot exceed that kind of number.
Peripherals have to follow some sort of rules as well. Even USB items,
like flash keys, have a limit on allowed bypass caps. (100uF sag
protection on the mobo, 10uF max on a USB key to prevent an inrush
problem on a shared rail.)

Such a cap (the ruined one), is for all practical purposes
running off +12V and GND, and cares not about water sprinkles.
Maybe you could have electrolysis to eat the cap body, but as
far as charging the cap to some illegal value, probably not.

Paul

I recently bought a PoE switch from eBay. It had been damaged by water
ingress and the current flow was sufficient to start a fire inside it.
I know it was water because of the rust on the inside of the steel case and
I know there had been a fire because of the charred pcb and components
and soot on the inside of the case.
I did get a refund without any problems once I sent photographs - despite the
\"no returns\" statement in the listing.

John

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 16:52:29 +0100, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 8/17/2022 10:11 AM, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 12/08/2022 19:20, Marco Moock wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2022, um 03:07:19 Uhr schrieb Brian Gregory:

Just from water?
That\'s hard to believe.

Yes, it was normal water, but our water here contains a lot of calcium
inside, that improves the conductivity.


So your thinking that the water carried the +12V or -12V to a part that expected only a lower voltage? And then passed enough current for a capacitor to heat up and explode?

I still find it hard to believe.

I guess maybe some tiny capacitor the coupled audio in the on board audio circuit?

But that cap is on the input side filter bank.

Some of the R9 280x have two 2x4 pin PCIe power connectors.
The OPs board is one of the bodged ones, where the PCB has
holes for two 2x4, but the board is populated with one 2x3 and one 2x4.
The board VBIOS must be programmed with an appropriate power limit,
if the board has power management.

Nah, you can drive more power than you\'re supposed to through those plugs. They just wear out quicker (oxidizing, then voltage drop, then crash the card). I\'ve set one to 1.5 times the standard max current, and run it flat out 24/7. I change the connectors every 4 months. Sometimes I just solder wires straight onto them.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:16:32 +0100, jon <jon@nospam.cn> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 20:28:04 +0100, Jim Stewart ... wrote:


How many people die of cancer, car accidents, kidney disease, etc, etc.
You can\'t go around worrying about everything, just go have fun for
goodness sake. I\'m continually amazed at the modern world, everyone
has turned into big girl\'s blouses. Grow a pair of cohones and take
some risks, it\'s fun!

Have I not been telling people on here to take a chance for years ?> ...

Especially reversed connected electrolytics.

Just add more volts. This guy had previously vented a few thimble sized ones then tried a large one which failed to vent:
https://youtu.be/f9bDyt4LMJA?t=130